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25 Comments

  1. David Pendergrass

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Here’s my take so Stephen king wrote pennywise the clown pennywise eats children so by their logic therefore Stephen king actually eats children

  2. bettyreads

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    appreciate the conversation around content warnings and silvia's point around the nuance being what's missing is something i def agree with. the way the warnings are long for bipoc folks and not for white folks is totally not okay. what a complex conversation for sure.

  3. Oof

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    I think Storygraph is trying to fight the issue with abusing content warnings now! They updated their website so that there's an option for authors to add their own content warnings and they're only featuring content warnings that have been selected by a certain percentage of users (e.g. if most users add "bullying" as a warning it'll be featured and you have to click an extra button to see the less popular warnings). I noticed this update only last week so I think this is probably connected to the discussion people were having on Twitter.

    I know this doesn't even come close to fixing the issue but I think it's nice of the platform nevertheless.

  4. Sebastian D

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Completely off the tangent here, I love the way you read out loud. It's so simple and pure without any hint of trying to be oh-so-perfect. I could hear the "huh?" when you encountered new or difficult-to-be-spoken words. Thanks for all the Book Community digest as always!

  5. Sif

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    WHAT WAS THAT TIKTOK IM SO TERRIFIED

  6. Sif

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    guys i cant believe gay people have regular lives

  7. BH Sprinkle

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    What happened to books coming straight from the imagination? Why do people have to add political or biased comments in their work at all? Unless it is a character talking about the politics in a made-up fantasy world or characters ragging against other characters ( aka antagonists), it just isn't okay. I'm a writer and reader. I am not for metaphors of that nature. It's all fiction coming from the head. No relevance to life.

  8. Steph

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    great video, so many interesting topics!

  9. lavender dreaming

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    I want to add a comment as a SA survivor. Authors putting warnings for scenes that are graphic IS REALLY IMPORTANT. I quite literally have spent weeks spiraling after a graphic scenes in books. People KNOW that scenes like that are triggering and need warnings. It’s not the readers job to spend hours researching because something may be triggering its fucking Exhausting to have to do that every time.

  10. Maya Rahman

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Love Nigel 🥺🥺

  11. Travis Marshall Signo

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Tired of heteros fetishing MLM

  12. sundawg911

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    I didn't get the popularity of RWRB. I hated it and also DNF. lol.

  13. wildwood

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Tbh the person who wrote Red White & Royal Blue gives off fetishy vibes. The way the two male leads was so off to real m/m relationships and was more akin to BL manga or porn stereotypes. The darker skin/ethnic domineering top, and the pale blue eyed blond haired bottom, like that's literally just YAOI manga in written form.

  14. Idde Lindberg

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Question. Would you recommend mistborn? Is it good?

  15. CamilaCantThink

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    mmm this is a month old but… the comments are going off about how good One Last Stop is but…. as a queerchinese person myself I actually found a lot of Jane's depictions as well as how the book ignored what it was actually like for Chinese americans at the time like…. idk man it felt bad. The book felt waaay to much like Yellow Fever and a white woman's fantasy of a sexy badass china doll for a gf EDIT: I'd also like to say I have not read Casey McQuinston's other book, Red White and Royal Blue bc it felt way too white woman's dream of america. And after reading One Last Stop I definatly wont be picking up her book.

  16. Tahia Rouf

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Straight, white booktok read Red, White, and Royal Blue and thought that they solved homophobia.

  17. a disaster

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    for the CW or TW topic: in chinese novels, the authors literally list the warnings themselves and if they dont, then fans do so on social media. for example, there is a novel called 2ha and its full of triggering content. the author lists the warnings before the chapter. there's also a carrd made by fans and (fan) translators who list content warnings. in the twitter fandom for this book, everyone is very open about the warnings cuz no one wants problems to arise. there are some chinese writers who dont list it but translators do mainly because its fans who are they're doing it. something like a website where everyone can tag the warnings, its ofc gonna be misused.

    i kinda hope the english novel side would use the same process. either the author/publishers list it, or one small group is in charge of it and u need to put in requests to add something and it needs context. idk how well its gonna work cuz it works well for the chinese novels because these are chinese ppl who are translating it for others so everyone is getting the info from one source since not everyone can read chinese and with english books, there isnt one place to use as a source

  18. Samantha Holz

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    I choked at those lists of trigger warnings. That's worse than the parental warning comments section on IMDb.

  19. Courtney Davidson

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    The “life style” comment kills me every time 😂

  20. Charlette Cooper

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    I feel like if they can do it for movies they can do it for books too.

  21. Dan The Man

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    y'all the casey mcquisten shit is…wild. I am a palestinian jew in the diaspora and both of those lines??? read as intended??? to me??? like it's a lukewarm ass NA lib take on the issue but that doesn't mean they have to reprint lmao

  22. Q Ludwig

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Can I also just quickly point out in regards to the line in red white and royal blue. That yes it was clearly not the most thought through and as people in the comments have pointed out excluded more international readers for the idealized and more hopefully world of the book, however it’s worth remembering that despite the wide spread discussion of this book now it was by no means a major release when it came out. Like a few months after it came out very few bookstores in Canada stocked it and there wasn’t even a uk printing of the book until later. So there probably wasn’t a whole team of editors reading this over before it went to print. And sometimes people make mistakes and don’t say this the best. Especially as it what was likely predicted to be a fairly uneventful debut novel so perhaps didn’t go through as many sensitivity and beta readers as it would have if they knew how big and audiences would get.

  23. Eleftheria K.

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    I think what casey said clears the whole thing up. Like i get why people thought ut was harmful, i thought it was weird when i read but it seems a good enough explanation to me. It was about that duplicity and that minimizing someone's trauma, it was to show that american politicians do that to keep up diplomatic relations. It wasn't supposed to be a "girl i get and i feel for you" moment, it was supposed to be an "ugh, fucking politics" one

  24. Eleftheria K.

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    That tiktok was painful, clear fetishing.
    Casey's books are good. I can understand not vibing with a book and finding boring, but what you said about having to be attracted to the characters and fetishing them like that . I cant.

  25. Kelsey Tulipane

    August 3, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    Just wanted to point out that One Last Stop isn’t a lesbian romance because the main character August is bisexual and the other main character Jane is a lesbian so it’s better to refer it as a sapphic romance! 😊

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